As Cobbler says, us men don't generally 'do' subtlety so just dropping hints isn't likely to work on us. If you want us to do or know things then you need to communicate with us in a language WE understand!
Cobbler, Let not your heart be troubled, or frustrated... think about your realtionship that you have with Jesus Christ. What was the foundation or start of it?... You LEARNED to TRUST in Him because He proved himself FAITHFUL and HONEST!
This is the foundation of our relationships with each other... relationship between men and women no matter what you may think or feel starts with these qualities just as your relationship is with Christ otherwise, God would not have compared it in Ephesians chapter5.
Its very simle when you view your relationship with a woman as you view your relationship with Christ., because our relationships in marriage are suppose to be spiritual. Therefore, If a man say he loves a woman, then he will be honest and trustworthy... a woman does not have to communicate her needs to a man, if he is doing as God has commanded him to do toward his wife, not only will she be getting her needs and desires met, but he will as well because he is in obedinece to what God has said and how God has told him he is to treat his wife. If a man's realtionship with Christ is half stepping, and dishonest, so will his relationship be with his wife or the woman in his life.
God points this out in I Timothy 3, comparing the qualities and duties of a bishop or the man of God. How he takes care of his home is how he will takes care of his relatiosnhip with the church. The man has been ordained by God to be the preiset or bishop of his household and cae taker of his wife, and if he is doing this the wife will not have a need to communicate what it is she wants from her man or husband.
The problme lies within the man who feels the woman is in special need fo something he can't give... when there is trust on both sides, then both paries are getting their emotioanl, mental, spiritual and physical needs meet...
A marriage and dating relationstion which should always lead to marrage is a spiritual thing that takes place between tow people who are connected9Joined) together with God therefore, it should work together in like manner. Having all things in common..
I think you guys Cobbler and DKJ should maybe seek out more mature women maybe a few years old than yourselves, becaus ethes younger women in your age groupings don't know what they want because most of them are not mature godly women, therefore, they give you guys the run around emotionally, tryng to meet their needs when they don't even meet their own needs within themsleves..they don't have a clue.
Again, DKJ, as the old saying goes, if I must ask the price of sometihing I am looking at to purchase, then I can't afford it... in like manner, If a man must ask a woman how can he meet her needs then , he's not meeting his own needs, becuas ethe two are to be joined together and know winthin their spirits what each other well enough in the connection just as Christ knows when we have a need.
Two joined together have all things in agreement and in common...
CORRECTIONS BY ELLA: WOW, sorry about this, but themn you guys know my typing skills:yay:
Again, DKJ, as the old saying goes, if I must ask the price of sometihing I am looking at to purchase, then I can't afford it... in like manner, If a man must ask a woman how can he meet her needs then, he's not meeting his own needs, because the two are to be joined together and know within their spirits what each other well enough in the connection just as Christ in His connection wiht us knows when we have a need.
A man is cannot plese his wife or woman if he is not plesing God. Point, in Ecclesiastes chpater 4: 9 Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.
****A cord of three strands is not quickly broken. The meaning of this is the man and woman who have God in their lives and are depending on God to see them through all things in their realtionship... the man on one side... God in the middle, and the woman on the other side holding on to God from both sides... Two joined together have all things in agreement and in common... this is a godly relationship and a man will know what it is the woman has need of before she ask... because they are are seeking the same thing, honesty and trust which produces love, affection, compassion, and all the other qualities of endearment.
A woman needs no mare than the same things a man has need of... but it is is the man who set the foundation of the relationship according to Ephesians 5 and I Timothy 3...
This just came into my spirit... can God trust you (generic YOU) to be honest and faithful in your relationship with Him?... Does God find you trustworthy?... because these qualities are the sure signs of love...
The church is the bride of Christ, just as the wife is the bride of the husband, and the man must be toward the woman as Christ is toward the church... think about it!
Even if the woman is as Gomer, the man still must remain with the heart of Christ toward his wife or woman... solid foundation alwasy stands firm...:glow:
The bride of Christ is the church. And He loved the church so much that He gave His life for it. The Church did not communicate her need to Christ, He knew what the Church needed and supplied the need of the Church and made the ultimate sacrifice for her.
Ephesians 5:25-30 It is our duty as men of God to know what the need of our wife is and supply them as Christ supplied the needs of the Church. Whoever loves his wife loves himself because it is impossible to hate your own flesh. Which means you cannot seperate your wife needs from your needs.
It our duty as men to love our wives, not the other way around. If the relationship is based on Christ, there will be no sacrifice too great to make for the wife. When her needs are being met, your needs are being met.
Let Christ be the foudation our relationship, as we follow Christ as our example let the spiritteach us how to meet the needs of our wives. Godbless you,
Wow! you guys really twist my words around. I NEVER said that trust is not important. All I said is that women want more than just trust and honesty. A relationship isn't built on just one thing.
This is why I hate talking to people and opening up. EVERYTHING I say gets twisted into something evil.
Cobbler, I think you have misunderstood and misread what has been posted... no one has twisted not one word you've said into anything evil... why would you say such a thing that what has been said you take it as being evil?...
What is said, is that a godly relationship is built on HONESTY AND TRUST... just as our relationship is with Christ, and this should be the focus when entering into a relationship.
Every relationship that has been destroyed has been so because there WAS A TRUST AND HONESTY FACTOR NOT IN PLAY....
When the trust has been broken in a relationship, the relationship is OVER... its very difficult to rebuild trust no matter how much a person says he/she is in love. Trust is like a brokne glass or your favorite vase, When its broken, and you try to glue it back together, it might look fine at a distance, but it is never the same as before it was broken... This is the same in the relationship, if honesty and trust are not establish in the relayionship it will not work nor last.
And if the hinesty and trust is broken so is the relationship... this is the point of spiritual encouragement in what has been posted... and I can't find any thing evil is this, nor can I find wherein you see evil in this. Trust and honesty are the foundational qualities of any godly relationship and must be the first order in developing the relationship. If these qualities are not there, you dod not have a sound relationship... so, again, I ask you, what's evil about this?
I don't know if this helps or not, but my 2 cents I'd like to put in is:
If you want somebody to meet your needs, then you have to meet their needs.
Mutual submission is how God set up life. People respond to you the way you respond to them. The problem it seems that people have with it is they don't want to be the ones left holding the bag if it doesn't work out at any point, which will sometimes or even often times happen. But it will NEVER happen if you don't try to do your part.
