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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 07:31 AM

Hi girls, how far do you think we could be categorized as a submissive wife? How far should we go to be called as the wife who has fulfilled the Eph5:22. And, good news is, in order, wives first submit (Eph5:22) THEN the husbands love (Eph5:25). Isn't it interesting? =)



Note for guys who read this: hey this could be your "weapon" if ur wife later isnt being submissive to u lol kiDDing :goofball:

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 08:03 AM

And that's what the Bible says! Not me :angel:

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 10:51 AM

InHisHonor (my boyfriend) and I listened to part 1 of a radio broadcast regarding submission last night and will be listening to part 2 tonight. So, I'll hopefully have more to say on this topic later!



One of the things I learned last night that has helped in my understanding of submission was the visualisation of it as a flow chart... God is at the top of the flow chart, hubby is below him, and wife is below hubby. And, of course government authorities, your boss, etc. are on there too. Basically, you yield to the person above you, who, in turn, is yielding to the authority over them.



When a wife submits to her husband, she is basically submitting to God because the hubby is below God on the flow chart =) So, it would be wise for us ladies to select men for husbands who are in submission to God on a daily basis and who see Him as their cornerstone and as their chief counselor in decision making.



One of the areas of submission that I anticipate being difficult for me is how the hubby has authority over his wife's body. I have to admit that I cringe a little every time I read that. The thought of giving up control over something so basic is a little scary. But, then I remember that I will be marrying someone who loves me and who will not abuse his authority, and who hopefully will be in prayer on a regular basis regarding how he can love and serve me in this area.



I guess maybe it comes down to a vulnerability issue...

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 11:22 AM

@ Pixy very well said



I like Chip Ingrams analogy. He compares marriage to a dance between a man and a woman, and God as the coriographer (idk how that word is spelled lol).



A man should never use it as a weapon, my Lord is a gentleman, and I am expected to be so too. A Godly man will exalt his wife and her needs over his own, but only within the boundries of Godliness. He will love her like Uriah the Hittite loved David, or like Jesus loved Judas when he washed Judas's feet, even knowing that he was washing the feet of his betrayer.



A godly man will also submit authority of his body to his wife. He will use his eyes to only behold her beauty, his ears to listen about her day, his mouth to affirm her, his touch to let her know she is loved,and his nose to face danger in her protection. :)

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 11:33 AM

Wow! Thank you Rabbit! Women get so used to men with octopus arms and slimy messages, that it is all too easy to think that their is some thing wrong when a godly man treats us with godly respect. I'm going to remember the phrase, "our Lord is a gentleman."



Thanks again,

Rose

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 11:57 AM

Uh....but the husband's body is not his own either.





1 Corinthians 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.



And of course, the attributes of love.



1 Corinthians 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.



So you shouldn't have to be too scared if you marry someone that loves you like that.



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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 01:04 PM

That's very true, Mark. There's definitely a yielding to one another in marriage.



This is also why it's important for me to continue to work on my body image. because if I'm supposed to care for my husband's body the way I care for my own, I better know how to care for mine properly, eh? I think that disrespect for your own body would probably carry over to disrespect for your spouse's body. Or maybe just fear or excessive anxiety.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 02:09 PM

I always liked the dancing metaphor, partly because I do a fair bit of swing dancing. When you're dancing, you're working together as a team, have to communicate with each other, and are constantly thinking about the other person. Ultimately though, someone has to make the final decisions as to what to do. If two people are trying to each do their own thing, both end up looking bad. If the person making decisions is only thinking about themselves, neither looks good. That's how I understand submission. Ultimately, when a decision has to be made, two people can't take a vote. It'll always end up in a tie.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 02:44 PM

I find this a challenge... I know it is something I need to work on!

Unfortunately I do not see and have not seen many Godly examples of this... to often I have seen this submissive thing taken to far...



I mention it as I have my "own" ideas which i try to base on the bible but really I would love to chat with a couple I respect and can see that it is how they operate.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 04:54 PM

Pixy you are absolutely correct about finding a man who puts God first and who hears His voice in his daily life. If not, then it wont work.

That's why its so hard to meet someone compatible because you have to trust this person with your heart/body/mind without fear of control, manipulation or abuse of any kind.

It's very important to be whole emotionally before getting into a serious relationship so that we arent expecting something bad to happen before it does. Does that make sense?????



Not to put more pressure on you guys but you can tell alot by a first message...or let's say the first few messages. I will know if I he will be suitable for me within the first few messages, I will not continue messaging with someone if they ignore me, if they dont answer my questions or if he doesnt do what he says he's going to do. That tells me he's self centered and not serious, does not communicate well and isnt a man of his word.

do you think that's harsh?



When the right person comes along and the Lord blesses it, the submission will be no problem.

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 05:15 PM

Thank you all for the responses. So, in God, it takes three to tango, right? =)



Anyone has any experience or story of being submissive?

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