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sisygirl

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 04:11 AM

Greetings wonderful ladies!

Hope all is well with you.



I humbly need your help in understanding certain verses in the bible. The question is trigured by my conversation with Letthismind2 about matters to be considered when deciding to get married,



And ensuring that the marriege is not only based on sexual activities, but rather in all areas of life.



The first passage to look at is:

1 Corinth 7:13-14

13, "And a woman who has a husband that is unbelieving, if willing to live with her, let her not divorce him 14, For the unbelieving husbend is santified through the believing wife."



Onother one is:

1 Corinth 10:18-21



18,"....Are not those who eat of the sacrifice partakers of the altar? 19, What am I saying then? That an idol is anything? Or what is offered to idols is anything? 20, Rather that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demonds and not to God. And I do not want you to have fellowship with demonds 21, You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demonds; you cannot partake of the Lords table and of the demonds."



Please share how possible is it for a wife to keep an unsaved husband without being won over to evil through submission,



Fore these two different kingdoms have one thing is common, that is soul winning.



How then will the wife submit to the husbend's former instructions (since she's now saved) that involve evil altars, without compromising her relationship with God.



There surely is a way for the wife to go about masteing this, just don't know how will she go about it.



Please dear ladies share your views on this.

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teach_ib

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 05:36 PM

Sisygirl, great questions. It may take a day or two for my thoughts as I'll be traveling after work tomorrow.

All things are possible with God!

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sisygirl

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 06:01 PM

Its ok dear,

Take as much time as you'll need please.

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 06:13 PM

"There must surely be a way for the wife to go about MUSTERING this, just don't know how will she go about it"



Bold words are correction on my last paragraph.

Very sorry for errors!

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 06:16 PM

"There must surely be a way for the wife to go about MUSTERING this, just don't know how will she go about it"



Bold words are correction on my last paragraph.

Very sorry for errors!

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2013 03:07 AM

Sisygirl this is a great question.

I may not be able to say much for now but will still contribute later.

If a wife becomes born again and the husband is not,she is supposed to let him know that she is born again.That should be the first step.As she continues praying for her salvation she will realise there are things they used to do with the hubby which are not right,and she will stop doing them or going to some places.

But even as she does this she should do it with all respect and humility,knowing that she is not better than him,and that we are only saved by the grace of God.The love for the husband should not change at all.

The reason I say with all respect and humility is so that she doesn't make the husband feel like he is the devil.She should continue to love him.She may not be able to share much with him regarding the bible but let him see there is something new and good in her and this may even change him.

Let the wife never show the husband that he is more of a sinner than her coz the bible says we have all fallen short of the glory of God.We are only saved by the grace of God and just like your day came to know and accept Christ,leave him to Christ to save him at His own time.Give and show His love.Let him see the love of Christ in you.

Remember what makes us conquer is prayer and faith.

So keep praying for strength in your salvation,pray for God's guidance.

Submission is not blindly following your husband.It is being able to show him what is right or wrong with respect and love.

Maybe i will add more with time.

God bless you and i hope i make sense.

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2013 10:19 AM

Lukia



Much appreciation lady for writting back, your time taken in posting is not taken forgranted AND yes you are making perfect sense dear. I'm reminded of my very first one on one conversation with DHTM when talking about submission, which was a fruitful conversation, THOUGH now i'm more focused on the altars involved from one kingdom versus the other while trying to win over the other part.



Don't take offense please as I'll be qoating from what you've said & analysing in order to relate with you.

When saying "The first step the wife should do is alerting her husbend that she's saved now (without making him feel like he's the evil one) therefore some things that she OR they used to do together, she won't be doing them anymore from now moving forth. She needs to do this with respect and huminity, while shining Jesus' light so she stands to win him over to Christ instead of loosing him."



I fully agree with the above said words

Though my main concern is what these two different kingdoms have in common, which is soul winning. The only thing different here is that the husband doesn't know any better that he's the most close & available tool to be used by the devil to distruct or to win over the wife if possible.



Having said this I'm keeping in mind that the wife on the other hand is trying not to make the husband feel or come across evil. In my little mind I honestly don't see the wife winning this one, (unless devine wisdom from the Holly spirit intervenes) the only reason I asked is because its written in the bible in a sence that he might be won over to Christ, therefore there is a possibility.



This challenge requires far more than humility, respect & communication as far as I keep thinking about it. The subject of religion is a very sensitive issue, that draws a very thin line in relationships generally let alone in a marriege.



You dear said again "Submission is not blindly following your husbend." Your're definately right in so saying AND that's were the issue is. By you wife not coperating with SOME given instructions cause they are suddenly not right, (keeping in mind that he doesn't know those things yet, since still in darkness) you making him feel like he's authority in the house is withing boundaries. That alone has created division of some sort.



The apostle Paul in Galatians 6:1 says :

"....Consider yourself lest you also be tempted" (i've qoated out of context I know dear) though this line alone speaks volumes when working on winning one over to Christ,



Remember that he also has that incommon with you, though he may not even know that he's being used.



Don't wanna make this complecated hey,

Just need help in understanding how might she go about this without being won over. Believe me it requires more than soft conversations with the husbend, come to think of it

Its one kingdom negotiating with the other....? What do these kingdoms have incommon that they should even relate?

Suppose that is why Jesus says he came to bring division.



Though there's defenately a way inspite of what I personally think.

I did understand your points sis'



Thank you!

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2013 10:41 AM

:waving: Hi Sissygirl...great questions...I havnt been following your discussions with the gents however I will look into these questions on the weekend and get back to you...Gods continued Blessings to you and yours...xo

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Posted : 26 Jul, 2013 02:55 PM

Jude



:yay: Wow!!

The excitement of hearing from you dear....

You ladies are very special to me.



The question came from a very healthy long conversation with LTM (i've bothered him more than I expected & he's been very patient with me) were I even opened up about my personal experiences since I come from a broken family.



The subject went as deep & broad to that extend, therefore its too much information to take inn at once, considering the length of our replies when posting back to each other. Having said that, I mean that you're welcomed to take as much time as you'll need in writting back, doesn't have to be during the weekend if having other responsibilities. I'll wait patiently for you.



Much love & blessings!!

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2013 04:52 PM

hi Jude I am back, Dennis

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Posted : 29 Jul, 2013 06:31 PM

Sisygirl...a multi-part reply...

I've read through many of your other recent posts, including your dialogue with Letthismind2. �I think I understand more of what you are asking.

First, the marriage arrangement discussed in Corinthians is referring to an unsaved couple who marry and one gets saved (can be the husband or the wife). �Because the Bible says don't be unequally yoked, some were using their salvation to get out of a marriage. �However, the passage can also refer to someone who was a Christian and married a non-Christian...already outside of God's will. �As others have pointed out, the Christian can set the example for the non-Christian which can influence the non-Christian to be saved.

The dilemma comes from the other verses you pointed out...if the non-Christian continues to live in sin and is pressuring the Christian to do something that is not right, this is when the 'live peaceable' comes into play. �If the non-Christian makes it unbearable for the Christian to live a Christian lifestyle, the Christian or the non-Christian can leave the relationship...it can be a temporary separation which may or may not lead to divorce.

If it does lead to divorce, there are other verses in that chapter that allow for remarriage...another controversial discussion.

As a Christian, we are first to submit to God's authority, then as a Christian wife, submit to the husband's authority. �This does not imply a dictatorship...as the verses give explicit instructions to the husband as well. �Too often the focus is on the wife's submission...but the husbands have to do their part, too, to make it a true Christian relationship.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

20 �Children, obey your parents in all things:for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:�

23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;�

24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance:for ye serve the Lord Christ.�

25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done:and there is no respect of persons.

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